Category Archives: Podcast Rankings

Dorktown Podcast Rankings: Where The Hell Did They Go?

Dorktown has been doing a monthly Podcast Rankings. A rankings that feature what I’ve been listening to over the past month, plus what some people around me have been listening to.

It started because there really wasn’t anything like it around the Internet. No real voice for the independent podcast trying to get some traction.  Once in a while one will show up in iTunes’ “New and Noteworthy” or Stitcher’s  “Top Movers” but that’s about it. So I thought I could do a monthly look at some indie podcasts in a rankings style. I love sports rankings (even College Baseball’s Top 25) and used to love Rollings Stone’s top 100 songs (back when they were a music magazine….). So why not do a podcasts version of them? It has been fun doing it and it’s gotten a bit of traction.

But… it turns out, after doing the rankings for a while, I feel like a dick. PODCAST RANKINGS

I hate moving people down in the rankings. Podcasts I like, but, for whatever reason, I felt needed to be moved down. Then they are all “What the hell?” and I’m all “Damn I feel like a dick.” and they’re all “Well you are a dick!” and I’m all “Yeah, you’re kinda right.”

Really. Who the hell am I to be judging podcasts? I’ve been podcasting for a long time but whatever. Still feel like a douche judging other podcasters. So I’m out.

BUT! I’m not out entirely. I will be starting regular blog posts on this webiste that will be a podcast column of sorts. Doing features of what we’ve been listening to in the past week, maybe some news items, whatever. Posts that I feel like less of a douche writing.

So keep listening to podcasts. Keep emailing us stuff to listen to, listen to our shows, kicks some ass, have a beer, kick some more ass and podcast.

-Mikey

Dorktown’s Podcast Rankings: June 2013

PODCAST RANKINGS

Oh man. The top five of the indie podcasts… any of them could be #1. But Firnecast holds it again, even with the return of Ear Candy to the indie side. A few more changes this month, nothing too crazy. Let’s check it:

DORKTOWN’S INDIE PODCAST TOP 25 – JUNE, 2013

  1. Firnecast
  2. The Bastard Cast
  3. Ear Candy
  4. The Married Gamers
  5. Full Of Sith
  6. Hangin’ Out-cast
  7. Epic PodQuest
  8. The Half Scoop
  9. The Night’s Watch
  10. Kissing Contest
  11. Small Town Bringdown
  12. Take Me Home
  13. Not Safe For Watercoolers
  14. Podcast Squared
  15. Succotash
  16. Mostly Harmless
  17. Wheelbarrow Full Of Dicks
  18. The Beaver Exhibit
  19. Tiny Odd Conversations
  20. Growler Radio
  21. Beer Download
  22. The Bull Room
  23. Drunkards Call
  24. Brew Drink Run
  25. Twisted Sisters

Others receiving votes: N3rdG4sm Lulzcast, The Hot Shot Whiz Kids, Solid Cat, Podcheese, Portland Sucks, Geek Gamer Weekly, 7 Days A Geek, Dead Men Talking, Unusual Suspects, Dead In 60 Years, BFGF Podshow, Worst Friends, The Mental Overload Show, S’more Geeks, Pool Party Radio, The Brit and the American, Musings Of A Geek, Nerds and Beer Podcast, Beer Sessions Radio, Basic Brewing Radio, The Beer Snobs, Vamp Cast, The Sweet Spot, The Sports Gamer Show, The Sci-Fi Super Friends, The Audacity To Podcast.

DORKTOWN’S MAINSTREAM PODCAST TOP 10 – JUNE, 2013

  1. WTF – With Marc Maron
  2. Bullseye
  3. Smodcast
  4. Rebel Force Radio
  5. Professor Blastoff
  6. Todd Glass
  7. The Session
  8. The Nerdist
  9. Sklarbro Country
  10. The Sporkful

Others receiving votes: Who Charted?, Comedy Bang Bang, Tell’Em Steve-Dave, Mohr Stories, Amplified.

This feature is here to support the podcast scene – most importantly the indie pods. Let other folks know about it, tweet it out, give it some more juice! It will be back at the beginning of each month (roughly) with a new Top Pods. Please feel free to leave a comment or Tweet us, about how this sucks or what you like about it. Or ask us to check out one of your favorite podcasts!

-Contact us: Email Dorktown.

[Please check out our Dorktown Network podcasts: Dorktown. Flowing With Famous. The Perfect Pour]

Dorktown’s Podcast Rankings for May 2013

PODCAST RANKINGS

Even with a long month (and a late posting of the podcast rankings), there still wasn’t an insane amount of movement. No change to the top three indies but there is a rankings newbie that already broke the 25. On the mainstream side, it would seem Marc Maron’s IFC show has re-ignited listening to WTF. Let’s check it out and see what we’ve been liking in the podcast world over the past month:

DORKTOWN’S INDIE PODCAST TOP 25 – MAY, 2013

  1. Firnecast
  2. The Bastard Cast
  3. The Married Gamers
  4. The Night’s Watch
  5. Full Of Sith
  6. Hangin’ Out-cast
  7. Epic PodQuest
  8. The Half Scoop
  9. Wheelbarrow Full Of Dicks
  10. Podcast Squared
  11. Succotash
  12. The Beaver Exhibit
  13. Tiny Odd Conversations
  14. Growler Radio
  15. Small Town Bringdown
  16. Not Safe For Watercoolers
  17. Beer Download
  18. Drunkards Call
  19. N3rdG4sm Lulzcast
  20. The Hot Shot Whiz Kids
  21. Kissing Contest
  22. The Bull Room
  23. Take Me Home
  24. Twisted Sisters
  25. Solid Cat

Others receiving votes: Don’t Quit Your Daycast, Podcheese  Destination: Asphyxiation, Mostly Harmless, Portland Sucks, Geek Gamer Weekly, 7 Days A Geek, Dead Men Talking, Unusual Suspects, Dead In 60 Years, Craft Beer Anonymous, BFGF Podshow, Worst Friends, The Mental Overload Show, S’more Geeks, Pool Party Radio, Route 21 Pod, The Brit and the American, Musings Of A Geek, Nerds and Beer Podcast, Beer Sessions Radio, Basic Brewing Radio, The Beer Snobs. Brew Drink Run.

DORKTOWN’S MAINSTREAM PODCAST TOP 10 – MAY, 2013

  1. Bullseye
  2. WTF – With Marc Maron
  3. Ear Candy
  4. Rebel Force Radio
  5. Professor Blastoff
  6. Todd Glass
  7. Smodcast
  8. The Nerdist
  9. Sklarbro Country
  10. The Session

Others receiving votes: Who Charted?, The Sporkful, Comedy Bang Bang, Tell’Em Steve-Dave, Mohr Stories.

This feature is here to support the podcast scene – most importantly the indie pods. Let other folks know about it, tweet it out, give it some more juice! It will be back at the beginning of each month (roughly) with a new Top Pods. Please feel free to leave a comment or Tweet us, about how this sucks or what you like about it. Or ask us to check out one of your favorite podcasts!

-Contact us: Email Dorktown.

[Please check out our Dorktown Network podcasts: Dorktown. Flowing With Famous. The Perfect Pour]

Dorktown’s Podcast Rankings: April 2013

PODCAST RANKINGS

New podcasts on the list this month, a few have dropped or dropped off totally – Hey, we don’t mean to bum other podcasters out, we just listen to stuff and we want you to know about it. Check them out and support the podcast scene (especially indie).  It’s Dorktown’s #PodcastRankings!!:

DORKTOWN’S INDIE PODCAST TOP 25 – APRIL, 2013

  1. Firnecast
  2. The Bastard Cast
  3. The Married Gamers
  4. Succotash
  5. Full Of Sith
  6. Hangin’ Out-cast
  7. Night’s Watch
  8. Podcast Squared
  9. Epic PodQuest
  10. Wheelbarrow Full Of Dicks
  11. The Beaver Exhibit
  12. The Half Scoop
  13. Tiny Odd Conversations
  14. Growler Radio
  15. Beer Download
  16. Small Town Bringdown
  17. Not Safe For Watercoolers
  18. Drunkards Call
  19. N3rdG4sm Lulzcast
  20. The Hot Shot Whiz Kids
  21. Podcheese
  22. The Bull Room
  23. Don’t Quit Your Daycast
  24. Twisted Sisters
  25. Solid Cat

Others receiving votes: Destination: Asphyxiation, Mostly Harmless, Portland Sucks,  Geek Gamer Weekly, 7 Days A Geek, Dead Men Talking, Unusual Suspects, Dead In 60 Years, Worst FriendsThe Mental Overload Show, S’more Geeks, Pool Party Radio, NHL Hits 2013, Route 21 PodThe Brit and the American, Two Men In A Car, Musings Of A Geek, Kissing Contest, May Brothers Digest, Beer Sessions Radio, Basic Brewing Radio, The Beer Snobs.

DORKTOWN’S MAINSTREAM PODCAST TOP 10 – APRIL, 2013

  1. Bullseye
  2. Ear Candy
  3. Rebel Force Radio
  4. Todd Glass
  5. Smodcast
  6. Artie Lange Show
  7. Sklarbro Country
  8. Superego
  9. Professor Blastoff
  10. Who Charted?

Others receiving votes: The Nerdist , When Doodie Calls, WTF – With Marc Maron, The Duncan Trussell Family Hour, The Podcast Cast, Comedy Bang Bang, The Fogelnest Files , Gweek, Jordan, Jesse GO!, Tell’Em Steve-Dave, Mohr Stories.

This feature is here to support the podcast scene – most importantly the indie pods. Let other folks know about it, tweet it out, give it some more juice! It will be back at the beginning of each month (roughly) with a new Top Pods. Please feel free to leave a comment or Tweet us, about how this sucks or what you like about it. Or ask us to check out one of your favorite podcasts!

-Contact us: Email Dorktown.

[Our Dorktown Network podcasts: Dorktown. Flowing With Famous. The Perfect Pour]

Dorktown’s Podcast Rankings – March 2013

PODCAST RANKINGS

Big month of podcast listening for Dorktown. A few things didn’t move but there are still lots of changes and some new podcasts to the rankings. Here’s what we’ve been listening to over the past month, kick ass and enjoy some of these podcasts for yourself:

DORKTOWN’S INDIE PODCAST TOP 25 – MARCH, 2013

  1. Watching Dead
  2. The Bastard Cast
  3. The Married Gamers
  4. Firnecast
  5. Succotash
  6. Podcast Squared
  7. Unkempt w’ Mike and Matt
  8. Hangin’ Out-cast
  9. Epic PodQuest
  10. Tiny Odd Conversations
  11. Wheelbarrow Full Of Dicks
  12. The Beaver Exhibit
  13. Growler Radio
  14. Small Town Bringdown
  15. 7 Days A Geek
  16. Drunkards Call
  17. Full Of Sith
  18. The Half Scoop
  19. Podcheese
  20. Worst Friends
  21. Portland Sucks
  22. Beer Download
  23. Destination: Asphyxiation
  24. Don’t Quit Your Daycast
  25. Not Safe For Watercoolers

Others receiving votes: Dead Men TalkingThe Bull Room, Dead In 60 Years, The Star Wars Report, Still Playing With Toys. The Mental Overload Show, N3rdG4sm Lulzcast, Pool Party Radio, The Hot Shot Whiz Kids, NHL Hits 2013, Salty Language, Route 21 Pod, Spilled Milk, Twisted Sisters, The Brit and the American, The Broadcast Basement, Musings Of A Geek, Kissing Contest, May Brothers Digest, 3 Hit Combo,

DORKTOWN’S MAINSTREAM PODCAST TOP 10 – MARCH, 2013

  1. Ear Candy 
  2. Bullseye
  3. Rebel Force Radio
  4. Todd Glass
  5. Smodcast
  6. Sklarbro Country
  7. Professor Blastoff
  8. Who Charted?
  9. The Nerdist
  10. The Duncan Trussell Family Hour

Others receiving votes: When Doodie Calls, FEaB, , The SporkfulWalking The Room, Artie Lange Show. WTF – With Marc Maron , The Podcast Cast, Comedy Bang Bang, Superego, Gweek,  Jordan, Jesse GO!Tell’Em Steve-Dave, Mohr Stories.

This feature is here to support the podcast scene – most importantly the indie pods. Let other folks know about it, tweet it out, give it some more juice! It will be back at the beginning of each month (roughly) with a new Top Pods. Please feel free to leave a comment or Tweet us, about how this sucks or what you like about it. Or ask us to check out one of your favorite podcasts!

-Contact us: Email Dorktown.

-Dorktown Network podcasts: Dorktown. Flowing With Famous. The Perfect Pour.

Dorktown’s Podcast Rankings – February 2013

What up!? This is how the rankings played out from a month of podcast listening. Watching Dead comes back from the mid-season break and jumps back on top. Other than that, short month so there’s no mega changes this time.

Let’s check it out and support the podcast scene!:

DORKTOWN’S INDIE PODCAST TOP 25 – FEBRUARY, 2012

  1. Watching Dead
  2. The Bastard Cast
  3. Firnecast
  4. Unkempt w’ Mike and Matt
  5. The Married Gamers
  6. Succotash
  7. Podcast Squared
  8. Hangin’ Out-cast
  9. Drunkards Call
  10. Podcheese
  11. Tiny Odd Conversations
  12. Wheelbarrow Full Of Dicks
  13. Growler Radio
  14. Small Town Bringdown
  15. Not Safe For Watercoolers
  16. The Half Scoop
  17. 7 Days A Geek
  18. Portland Sucks
  19. Beer Download
  20. Destination: Asphyxiation
  21. Epic PodQuest
  22. Don’t Quit Your Daycast
  23. The Beaver Exhibit
  24. Worst Friends
  25. Dead Men Talking

Others receiving votes: Dead In 60 Years, The Star Wars Report, Still Playing With Toys. The Mental Overload Show, N3rdG4sm Lulzcast, Pool Party Radio, The Hot Shot Whiz Kids, NHL Hits 2013, Salty Language, Route 21 Pod, Full Of Sith, Seacoast Beverage Lab, Spilled Milk.

DORKTOWN’S MAINSTREAM PODCAST TOP 10 – FEBRUARY, 2013

  1. Ear Candy 
  2. Rebel Force Radio
  3. Smodcast
  4. Professor Blastoff
  5. Todd Glass
  6. Mohr Stories
  7. WTF – With Marc Maron 
  8. PodCRASH
  9. The Nerdist
  10. Tell’Em Steve-Dave

Others receiving votes: When Doodie Calls, FEaB, Who Charted?, Sklarbro Country, The SporkfulWalking The Room, Artie Lange Show.

This feature is here to support the podcast scene – most importantly the indie pods. Let other folks know about it, tweet it out, give it some more juice! It will be back at the beginning of each month (roughly) with a new Top Pods. Please feel free to leave a comment or Tweet us, about how this sucks or what you like about it. Or ask us to check out one of your favorite podcasts!

-Contact us: Email Dorktown.

-Dorkwork Network podcasts: Dorktown. Flowing With Famous. The Perfect Pour.

DORKTOWN’S PODCAST RANKINGS FOR JANUARY 2013

Excited to see (well…HEAR) what’s in store for podcasting this year. Here’s to hoping that 2013 is podcasting’s biggest yet! Let’s see what we’ve been listening to so far.

DORKTOWN’S INDIE PODCAST TOP 25 – JANUARY, 2012

  1. The Bastard Cast
  2. Firnecast
  3. Unkempt w’ Mike and Matt
  4. The Married Gamers
  5. Podcast Squared
  6. Succotash
  7. Hangin’ Out-cast
  8. Drunkards Call
  9. Podcheese
  10. Tiny Odd Conversations
  11. Wheelbarrow Full Of Dicks
  12. Growler Radio
  13. N3rdG4sm Lulzcast
  14. The Half Scoop
  15. The Star Wars Report
  16. 7 Days A Geek
  17. Portland Sucks
  18. Salty Language
  19. Beer Download
  20. Destination: Asphyxiation
  21. Epic PodQuest
  22. Don’t Quit Your Daycast
  23. Small Town Bringdown
  24. Spilled Milk
  25. Not Safe For Watercoolers

Others receiving votes: Cluster F,  Still Playing With Toys. The Dork Forest, The Mental Overload Show, Brew Drink Run, Basic Brewing Radio, The No Call No Show, Ben On Beer, Pool Party Radio, United We Drink, Jim And Chris Save The Internet, The Hot Shot Whiz Kids, Dig Me Out, The Podcasters Studio, The Art Of Podcasting, The Audacity To Podcast. Bloggers Are Weird, The Hollywood Outsider, Being Dad Podcast, NHL Hits 2013, Dead Men Talking.

DORKTOWN’S MAINSTREAM PODCAST TOP 10 – JANUARY, 2013

  1. Ear Candy 
  2. Smodcast
  3. Professor Blastoff
  4. The Nerdist
  5. Todd Glass
  6. Mohr Stories
  7. WTF – With Marc Maron 
  8. PodCRASH
  9. Artie Lange Show
  10. Tell’Em Steve-Dave

Others receiving votes: When Doodie Calls, FEaB, Keith and The Girl, Comedy Bang Bang, Who Charted?, What’s Good, Sklarbro Country, The Sporkful, The Session , Walking The Room, Sound Opinions, Off The Air, The Duncan Trussell Family Hour,

This feature is here to support the podcast scene – most importantly the indie pods. Maybe let other folks know about it, Tweet it out, give it some more juice! It will be back at the beginning of each month (roughly) with a new Top Pods. Please feel free to leave a comment or Tweet us, about how this sucks or what you like about it. Or ask us to check out one of your favorite podcasts!

DORKTOWN’S TOP PODCAST RANKINGS – DECEMBER ’12!

We here at Dorktown listen to a crap-ton of podcasts. Might as well let everyone know what exactly we listen to so we can lend some support. Let’s look and then listen to what we think are the top indie and mainstream podcasts from the month of December!:

DORKTOWN’S INDIE PODCAST TOP 25 – DECEMBER, 2012

  1. Unkempt w’ Mike and Matt
  2. The Bastard Cast
  3. The Married Gamers
  4. Firnecast
  5. Podcast Squared
  6. Growler Radio
  7. Succotash
  8. Watching Dead
  9. Drunkards Call
  10. Hangin’ Out-cast
  11. Podcheese
  12. 7 Days A Geek
  13. N3rdG4sm Lulzcast
  14. Spilled Milk
  15. Beer Download
  16. Tiny Odd Conversations
  17. Portland Sucks
  18. The Half Scoop
  19. Salty Language
  20. Destination: Asphyxiation
  21. Epic PodQuest
  22. Wheelbarrow Full Of Dicks
  23. Don’t Quit Your Daycast
  24. Small Town Bringdown
  25. Concert Daze

Others receiving votes: Cluster F,  Still Playing With Toys. The Dork Forest, The Mental Overload Show, Brew Drink Run, Basic Brewing Radio, The No Call No Show, Ben On Beer, Pool Party Radio, United We Drink, Jim And Chris Save The Internet, The Hot Shot Whiz Kids, Dig Me Out, The Podcasters Studio, The Art Of Podcasting, The Audacity To Podcast, The Star Wars Report.

DORKTOWN’S MAINSTREAM PODCAST TOP 10 – DECEMBER, 2012

  1. Ear Candy 
  2. Smodcast
  3. The ForceCast
  4. Todd Glass
  5. Mohr Stories
  6. The Nerdist
  7. Professor Blastoff
  8. WTF – With Marc Maron 
  9. Keith and The Girl
  10. When Doodie Calls

Others receiving votes: PodCRASH, Who Charted?, Sklarbro Country, Ace On The House, The Sporkful, The Session , Tell’Em Steve-Dave, Walking The Room, Off The Air, The Duncan Trussell Family Hour,

This feature is here to support the podcast scene – most importantly the indie pods. Maybe let other folks know about it, Tweet it out, give it some more juice! It will be back at the beginning of each month (roughly) with a new Top Pods. Please feel free to leave a comment about how this sucks or what you like about it. Or ask us to check out one of your favorite podcasts!

DORKTOWN’S TOP PODCASTS FROM OCTOBER, 2012

Big change up to Dorktown’s Top Podcasts lists. We’ve really been getting deeper into ‘indie’ podcasts. So much in fact that we felt the need to expand it out to a top 25 instead of top 10. More exposure to more podcast can’t be a bad thing, yeah? We kept the ‘mainstream’ at 10 because, hey, they really don’t need the help from little ol’ us. Still we like showing what we’re listening to. Also, we graduated Doodie Calls to the Mainstream pods – figured they’re getting big enough to be mainstream now.

So here we go. Everything is linked up so be sure and investigate any pods you may not have heard of. Check ’em and listen!:

DORKTOWN’S INDIE PODCAST TOP 25 – OCTOBER, 2012

  1. Watching Dead
  2. Firnecast
  3. Podcheese.
  4. The Married Gamers
  5. Podcast Squared
  6. Growler Radio
  7. Unkempt w’ Mike and Matt
  8. The Dork Forest
  9. Stop Podcasting Yourself
  10. Cluster F
  11. Drunkards Call
  12. Hangin’ Out-cast
  13. Tiny Odd Conversations
  14. NHL Hitz 2013
  15. 7 Days A Geek
  16. The Bastard Cast 
  17. Spilled Milk
  18. Advice With Dawn
  19. Portland Sucks
  20. Destination: Asphyxiation
  21. Succotash
  22. The Half Scoop
  23. Mostly Harmless With Dammit Damian
  24. N3rdG4sm Lulzcast
  25. Still Playing With Toys

Others receiving votes: Epic PodQuest , Garagecast, Middle Age Children, The Mental Overload Show, Darkness Radio, Should I Drink That?, The Random Variety Show, In Case Of Emergency, The Half Scoop  Brew Drink Run, Basic Brewing Radio, The No Call No Show, You Look Nice Today, Ben On Beer, 76th Street Pod, The View Looks Good From Here Fresno, Pool Party Radio, Beer Download, Small Town Bringdown, Brothers From Different Mothers,

DORKTOWN’S MAINSTREAM PODCAST TOP 10 – OCTOBER, 2012

  1. Ear Candy 
  2. When Doodie Calls
  3. Todd Glass
  4. Mohr Stories
  5. The Nerdist
  6. Smodcast  
  7. WTF – With Marc Maron 
  8. The ForceCast
  9. The Duncan Trussell Family Hour
  10. Call Chelsea Peretti

Others receiving votes: The Sporkful, Professor Blastoff, The Session , Tell’Em Steve-Dave, Walking The Room, This American Life, Slate’s Culture Gabfest.

    This feature is here to support the podcast scene. Maybe let other folks know about it, Tweet it out, give it some more juice! It will be back at the beginning of each month (roughly) with a new Top Pods. Please feel free to leave a comment about how this sucks or what you like about it. Or ask us to check out one of your favorite podcasts.

    Dorktown’s Top Podcasts From September, 2012

    What are the top podcasts Dorktown listened to and enjoyed during September 2012? Well the indie podcasts are becoming stronger and stronger and more interesting. Not a lot of change to this month’s mainstream list. Let’s have a look at them both.

    In mainstream, the continuing storyline of “Emo Kev” gave Smodcast a big boost this month. But Ear Candy was able to hold it off as they are trying some new formatting and beginning to post two shows a week. WTF has fallen into a bit of a rut at the moment, it’ll be interesting to see if it comes back on continues to slide.

    DORKTOWN MAINSTREAM PODCAST TOP TEN – SEPTEMBER, 2012

    1. Ear Candy 
    2. Smodcast
    3. Todd Glass
    4. Professor Blastoff
    5. Nerdist
    6. Mohr Stories
    7. WTF – With Marc Maron
    8. ESPN Fantasy Underground
    9. You Made It Weird
    10. The Session

    Others receiving votes: The Duncan Trussell Family Hour, Metal Comedy Midgets.

    In indie, keeping the #1 spot is a show about taking a crap…yep. But Firnecast is still knocking at the door. And look out for Tiny Odd Conversations as they were featured in iTunes “New and Noteworthy” which launched them into the Top 30 of comedy podcasts on iTunes. Crazy stuff. We may have to put them on the Mainstream List if this keeps up.

    DORKTOWN INDIE PODCAST TOP TEN – SEPTEMBER, 2012

    1. When Doodie Calls
    2. Firnecast
    3. Growler Radio
    4. NHL Hitz 2013
    5. Tiny Odd Conversations
    6. Podcheese.
    7. Hangin’ Out-cast
    8. The Married Gamers
    9. The Half Scoop
    10. Pool Party Radio

    Others receiving votes: Dead In 60 Years, Pool Party Radio, Beer Download, Mostly Harmless With Dammit Damian, Small Town Bringdown, Brothers From Different Mothers, Drunkards Call, Unkempt w’ Mike and Matt, Succotash.

    This feature is here to support the podcast scene, let other folks know about it, give it some more juice. It will be back at the beginning of each month (roughly) with a new Top Ten. Please feel free to leave a comment and suggest some other cool podcasts to listen to – yes, even if it’s yours.